RE: "Last Look" at the RADIUS Design Guidelines document

["Wojciech Dec (wdec)" <wdec@cisco.com>]

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> From: owner-radiusext@ops.ietf.org 
> [mailto:owner-radiusext@ops.ietf.org] On Behalf Of David B. Nelson
> Sent: 11 January 2010 21:21
> To: radiusext@ops.ietf.org
> Subject: Re: "Last Look" at the RADIUS Design Guidelines document
> 
> On Jan 11, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Avi Lior wrote:
> 
> 
> I understand, but at some point you may want to consider 
> simply accepting the WG consensus on this and to find another 
> way to address your issues.  Attempting to re-open closed 
> discussions isn't productive

Woj> Sorry to hark on, but in terms of "consensus" and not re-opening
closed discussions, judging by the number of folks who have raised the
issue, it would be better to say that there no longer is consensus, with
even a rough consensus being questionable. Sometimes one needs to be
able take a step back inorder to move forward.

-Woj.


> 
>  > I can just ignore this document at the IETF but the 
> problem is that it will  > haunt me at the SDO level.
> 
> I'm certainly not suggesting that you (or anyone) ignore the document.
> 
>  > Several people told me that no one will take this document 
> seriously  > and that I should let it go.
> 
> Well, those who give you that advice would appear to me to 
> not take the standard process seriously.
> 
>  > What is the purpose of this document?
> 
> The purpose is to document the Internet community's 
> assessment of the Best Current Practice for designing RADIUS 
> Attributes for the "traditional" RADIUS protocol, as defined 
> in RFC 2865.
> 
> The purpose of the RADIUS Extended Attributes document is to 
> address the shortcomings of the "traditional" RADIUS data 
> model that we are all very familiar with.  Or at least to 
> partially address those shortcomings.  The WG consensus on 
> that does stop short of creating full feature-parity with Diameter.
> 
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