Re: again about interim

[Andy Bierman <ietf@andybierman.com>]

Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote:
> I raised the issue of a Netconf WG interim meeting in the IESG 
> teleconference yesterday. The request for an interim immediately after 
> the Montreal meeting was not received very sympathetically, to say it 
> mildly. It looks like the rules allow indeed for an interim meeting 
> immediately after the IETF meeting (not before), but this is perceived 
> rather as a loophole in the rules. The IESG prefers the participants in 
> an IETF meeting to be able to participate in more activities during the 
> IETF week, and if an interim is needed it rather be a real 
> interim during the three-four months between the IETF meetings. Also, 
> the WG will need to take care of the logistics, find a meeting place, 
> pay for the rooms, etc. The IETF may be able to find a meeting room on 
> Friday afternoon, but will not pay for Saturday or Sunday meeting rooms. 
> It's not a definite no, and if you want it and find the good arguments 
> meeting on Fri-Sat-Sun after the IETF may still be approved, as it fits 
> in the rules. Yet, you will need to find ways to fund it, as for any 
> interim.
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> So, you may want to consider again options for an interim in May or 
> beginning of June. You also may ask for two meetings during the Montreal 
> session. Or you may insist for the interim-stuck-to-Montreal, and may 
> get it.
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> The more important thing in my opinion is to continue the good 
> discussions happening on the list after Dallas, channel them into 
> contributions and try to work towards WG consensus.

Here is the problem.
There was < 10% of the WG prepared to work in Dallas.
Except for the authors and co-chairs, there are about
2 or 3 people that can make it to an interim in Europe.

This just isn't worth it unless 10+ clueful people besides
the authors and chairs attend.  Especially since travel
is so expensive, and the issues deadlocking the WG are so big
and complex.

I really find it puzzling how an interim on Friday will
prevent people from "cross-area participation" on M-Th.
I find it disturbing that the IESG prioritizes cross
participation over progress.


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Andy

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