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Re: predictable content



HI,

I think you accidentialy used an incorrect characterization
of SNMPv3's the  (context-engine-id, context-name) pair.
It is not the identity of the "sender". It is the
source of the notification. An observer can send
a NOTIFICATION reporting that an event occured on
another system, and when so would use the that
system's identifier as the source.

A proxy also uses the identification of the source
system and not it's identity.

Regards,
/david t. perkins

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 11:58:57AM +0200, Balazs Lengyel wrote:
> 
> > For me this also means that the content of the notifications should
> > be defined as well. A full definition is not possible but at least a
> > set of basic data (notification type, category?, sender, timestamp,
> > human readable info string ?, alarmID etc.) could be defined by the
> > protocol. (Like sender, notification type and timestamp is included
> > in SNMP as I remember.)
> 
> SNMPv1 indeed did this but the idea was weakened with the introduction
> of SNMPv2 PDU formats some 12+ years ago since only the notification
> name (its OID) and the sysUpTime timestamp is required to be shipped
> in the varbind list (and note that sysUpTime is the time since the
> network management portion of the system was last re-initialized).
> The identification of the sender got reintroduced in SNMPv3 by means
> of the (context-engine-id, context-name) pair, in particular to handle
> proxy situations (but I hope NETCONF avoids dealing with proxies).
>  
> > So even if the NMS doesn't know the specific data model he can do
> > some useful things with it e.g. present it, search for specific
> > string values etc.
> 
> You are proposing to hard-wire a portion of a data model into the
> protocol. So far, NETCONF tried to avoid this and the question would
> be where to stop.
> 
> /js
> 
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