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Re: [idn] length restrictions on IDN label



There is already restriction in the number of codepoint or octets in UTF-8
(or other) encoding.

The restriction is defined currently as octet(ToASCII(X)) < 63.

-James Seng

> That is true only in  protocols predating IDNA draft.
> IDN labels can be typed in/ displayed/ copy&pasted/ or exchanged in
>  UTF8 (or other) encoding
> in now and future applications or protocols slots as described in IDNA
> draft itself.
> See enclosed excerpts from IDNA draft  ( "SEE HERE").
>
> I think some length restriction in code points is needed, rather than in
> octets ....
> IDNA is the right place to put such things..
>
> Soobok Lee
>
> 6.3 DNS servers
>
> Domain names stored in zones follow the rules for "stored strings" from
> [STRINGPREP].
>
> For internationalized labels that cannot be represented directly in
> ASCII, DNS servers MUST use the ACE form produced by the ToASCII
> operation. All IDNs served by DNS servers MUST contain only ASCII
> characters.
>
> If a signaling system which makes negotiation possible between old and
> new DNS clients and servers is standardized in the future, the encoding
> of the query in the DNS protocol itself can be changed from ACE to
> something else, such as UTF-8. The question whether or not this should
(SEE HERE)
> be used is, however, a separate problem and is not discussed in this
> memo.
>
>
>
> 6.1 Entry and display in applications
>
> (snip)
>
> In protocols and document formats that define how to handle
> specification or negotiation of charsets, labels can be encoded in any
> charset allowed by the protocol or document format. If a protocol or
> document format only allows one charset, the labels MUST be given in
> that charset.
>
> In any place where a protocol or document format allows transmission of
> the characters in internationalized labels, internationalized labels
> SHOULD be transmitted using whatever character encoding and escape   ( SEE
HERE )
> mechanism that the protocol or document format uses at that place.
>
> All protocols that use domain name slots already have the capacity for
> handling domain names in the ASCII charset. Thus, ACE labels
> (internationalized labels that have been processed with the ToASCII
> operation) can inherently be handled by those protocols.
>
>
> 6. Implications for typical applications using DNS
>
> In IDNA, applications perform the processing needed to input
> internationalized domain names from users, display internationalized
> domain names to users, and process the inputs and outputs from DNS and
> other protocols that carry domain names.
>
> The components and interfaces between them can be represented
> pictorially as:
>
>                      +------+
>                      | User |
>                      +------+
>                         ^
>                         | Input and display: local interface methods
>                         | (pen, keyboard, glowing phosphorus, ...)
>     +-------------------|-------------------------------+
>     |                   v                               |
>     |          +-----------------------------+          |
>     |          |        Application          |          |
>     |          |   (ToASCII and ToUnicode    |          |
>     |          |      operations may be      |          |
>     |          |        called here)         |          |
>     |          +-----------------------------+          |
>     |                   ^        ^                      | End system
>     |                   |        |                      |
>     | Call to resolver: |        | Application-specific |
>     |              ACE  |        | protocol:            |
>     |                   v        | ACE unless the       |
>     |           +----------+     | protocol is updated  |
>     |           | Resolver |     | to handle other      |
>     |           +----------+     | encodings            |   (SEE HERE)
>     |                 ^          |                      |
>     +-----------------|----------|----------------------+
>         DNS protocol: |          |
>                   ACE |          |
>                       v          v
>            +-------------+    +---------------------+
>            | DNS servers |    | Application servers |
>            +-------------+    +---------------------+
>
>
>
>
>