Re: [idn] case folding

[James Seng <jseng@pobox.org.sg>]

Normalization UTR#15.

However, should we reopen the discussion on what codepoint is allowed and what
is not? I remember we have quite a heated argument and the consensus then was
to leave it in the proposal protocol. Any changes now?

-James Seng

Jonathan Rosenne wrote:
> 
> In addition to case folding, two issues have to be considered: normalization
> and excluded characters.
> 
> For Hebrew, we definitely should exclude the bidi formatting codes,
> cantillation marks (0591-05AF) and some points (05BD, 05BE, 05C0, 05C3,
> 05C4). Regarding the points (05B0-05C2), since it seems that case folding is
> agreed for Latin scripts it seems to me logical to exclude points, but if
> not some normalization would be needed to make it work.
> 
> Jony
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-idn@ops.ietf.org [mailto:owner-idn@ops.ietf.org]On
> > Behalf Of Marc Blanchet
> > Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 4:29 PM
> > To: Eugene M. Kim; GIM Gyeongseog-KIM Kyongsok
> > Cc: idn@ops.ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: [idn] case folding
> >
> >
> > At/À 02:31 2000-06-11 -0700, Eugene M. Kim you wrote/vous écriviez:
> > >I would like to leave this issue open for a while; it wouldn't be too
> > >late after we look at how different proposals deal with it.
> >
> > I agree with this view.
> >
> > We should make room in the requirements, in order to have some space for
> > engineering decisions. This idn problem is not simple, and it is pretty
> > clear from our discussions that the solution will be some sort of
> > compromise. We were able to discuss requirements mostly because
> > we had many
> > proposals on the plate to discuss. We should be able to review different
> > alternatives, so we need not to tight requirements too much.
> >
> > If we are stuck too long on the requirements, we will never have a
> > standard.  Worst, we will have 20 standards deployed. Then at that time,
> > trying to refine requirements will be waste of time: we will have to take
> > care of the current deployed "standards" and try to make one out of them.
> > Much more difficult.
> >
> > Marc.
> >
> > >Regards,
> > >Eugene Kim
> > >
> > >On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, GIM Gyeongseog-KIM Kyongsok wrote:
> > >
> > >| On Mon, 29 May 2000, Brian W. Spolarich wrote:
> > >|
> > >| > On Mon, 29 May 2000, Maurizio Codogno wrote:
> > >| >
> > >| > | What about saying that the only case folding is [A-Z][a-z], for
> > >| > | backward compatibility with present DNS?
> > >|
> > >|   considering that case folding seems quite complicated,
> > >| i like the above idea.
> > >|
> > >|   as pointed out by somebody else (who?),
> > >| cases do matter on Unix systems.
> > >|
> > >|
> > >| ±è °æ¼®, ºÎ»ê´ë Á¤º¸ ÄÄÇ»ÅÍ °øÇкÎ;
> > >| KIM Kyongsok/GIM Gyeongseog, Busan National Univ.
> > >| gimgs@hangeul.cs.pusan.ac.kr, http://hangeul.cs.pusan.ac.kr/hangeul/
> > >| Ph: +82-(0)51-510-2292, Fax: +82-(0)51-515-2208
> > >|
> > >|
> > >
> > >--
> > >Eugene M. Kim <ab@astralblue.com>
> > >
> > >"Is your music unpopular?  Make it popular; make music
> > >which people like, or make people who like your music."
> >
> >
> > Marc Blanchet
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> > http://www.viagenie.qc.ca
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