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RE: [idn] case folding



In addition to case folding, two issues have to be considered: normalization
and excluded characters.

For Hebrew, we definitely should exclude the bidi formatting codes,
cantillation marks (0591-05AF) and some points (05BD, 05BE, 05C0, 05C3,
05C4). Regarding the points (05B0-05C2), since it seems that case folding is
agreed for Latin scripts it seems to me logical to exclude points, but if
not some normalization would be needed to make it work.

Jony

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-idn@ops.ietf.org [mailto:owner-idn@ops.ietf.org]On
> Behalf Of Marc Blanchet
> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 4:29 PM
> To: Eugene M. Kim; GIM Gyeongseog-KIM Kyongsok
> Cc: idn@ops.ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [idn] case folding
>
>
> At/À 02:31 2000-06-11 -0700, Eugene M. Kim you wrote/vous écriviez:
> >I would like to leave this issue open for a while; it wouldn't be too
> >late after we look at how different proposals deal with it.
>
> I agree with this view.
>
> We should make room in the requirements, in order to have some space for
> engineering decisions. This idn problem is not simple, and it is pretty
> clear from our discussions that the solution will be some sort of
> compromise. We were able to discuss requirements mostly because
> we had many
> proposals on the plate to discuss. We should be able to review different
> alternatives, so we need not to tight requirements too much.
>
> If we are stuck too long on the requirements, we will never have a
> standard.  Worst, we will have 20 standards deployed. Then at that time,
> trying to refine requirements will be waste of time: we will have to take
> care of the current deployed "standards" and try to make one out of them.
> Much more difficult.
>
> Marc.
>
> >Regards,
> >Eugene Kim
> >
> >On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, GIM Gyeongseog-KIM Kyongsok wrote:
> >
> >| On Mon, 29 May 2000, Brian W. Spolarich wrote:
> >|
> >| > On Mon, 29 May 2000, Maurizio Codogno wrote:
> >| >
> >| > | What about saying that the only case folding is [A-Z][a-z], for
> >| > | backward compatibility with present DNS?
> >|
> >|   considering that case folding seems quite complicated,
> >| i like the above idea.
> >|
> >|   as pointed out by somebody else (who?),
> >| cases do matter on Unix systems.
> >|
> >|
> >| ±è °æ¼®, ºÎ»ê´ë Á¤º¸ ÄÄÇ»ÅÍ °øÇкÎ;
> >| KIM Kyongsok/GIM Gyeongseog, Busan National Univ.
> >| gimgs@hangeul.cs.pusan.ac.kr, http://hangeul.cs.pusan.ac.kr/hangeul/
> >| Ph: +82-(0)51-510-2292, Fax: +82-(0)51-515-2208
> >|
> >|
> >
> >--
> >Eugene M. Kim <ab@astralblue.com>
> >
> >"Is your music unpopular?  Make it popular; make music
> >which people like, or make people who like your music."
>
>
> Marc Blanchet
> Viagénie inc.
> tel: 418-656-9254
> http://www.viagenie.qc.ca
>
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