Re: Fwd: Eeek - .NU Domains using

[Bill Manning <bmanning@ISI.EDU>]

I'd be strongly in favor of not mixing glyphs between sets.



% 
% At 10:54 00/01/08 -0500, J. William Semich wrote:
% > Clarifying question:
% > 
% > Isn't the number "2" an ASCII character? Would it not be necessary to mix
% > ASCII/numeric characters with Thai, Cyrillic, and Hangul characters? So -
% > ASCII characters need to be able to mix with all characters, yes?
% 
% Mixing Western Arabic digits such as "2" with many kinds of scripts
% definitely brings up a good point. Of course, "2" is an ASCII character.
% But in order to avoid this point, I used the term 'script' below.
% 'Script' is rather well defined for letters, but not in all cases
% for digits, and even less for symbols (for these, the term 'pseudo-
% script is often used). [sorry to bother everybody with terminology,
% but is two up-to-now unrelated areas are comming together, a certain
% amount of that is unavoidable]
% 
% So as we can mix Western Arabic digits with Latin letters in ASCII-
% only labels, I guess we will have to allow mixing them with scripts
% such as Greek and Cyrillic, too. Whether we should allow mixtures
% with scripts that have their own digits/numbers (Thai,...) is a
% slightly different question. The situation is a bit different in
% each case, depending on how much traditional digits, and how much
% western digits, are used. I guess that rather that making judgement
% calls without a clear understanding of the local situation, allowing
% the mixture is preferable.
% 
% But I don't think that this means that alphabetic ASCII characters
% (belonging to the Latin script) should be allowed to be mixed with
% other scripts without further consideration. And of course the
% various symbols in the ASCII range are an altogether different
% story; most of them aren't allowed in current domain names, and
% therefore shouldn't be allowed mixed with anything, I guess.
% 
% 
% > Are there any similar possibilities required among the non-ASCII
% > scripts/characters listed below?
% 
% That's what I would like to know, too.
% 
% Regards,   Martin.
% 
% 
% > Bill Semich
% > 
% > At 10:22 PM 1/8/00 +0900, Martin J. Duerst wrote:
% > >At 13:36 00/01/08 +0800, James Seng wrote:
% > >
% > >> I think I18N Domain Names must allow mix language characters,
% > >> even across different character set. 
% > >
% > >James - What do you mean with 'character set' in this context?
% > >As we are working on requirements, and don't want to discuss
% > >too much about encoding yet, it's difficult for me to understand.
% > >
% > >I agree with you that it has to be possible to mix characters
% > >from different languages and scripts in a domain name.
% > >
% > >What I think we should discuss a bit more is whether it is needed,
% > >from an usage viewpoint, to allow to mix different scripts
% > >*in a single label*. Let's for a moment exclude the border cases,
% > >and take some clear examples:
% > >
% > >- Is it necessary to be able to mix Thai letters and Hiragana
% > >  in a single label?
% > >
% > >- Is it necessary to be able to mix Cyrillic and Arabic characters
% > >  in a single label?
% > >
% > >- Is it necessary to be able to mix Chinese Hanzi and Hebrew
% > >  in a single label?
% > >
% > >- Is it necessary to be able to mix Korean Hangul and Egyptian
% > >  hieroglyphs in a single label? (once the later are defined)
% > >
% > >What does everybody think?
% > >
% > >
% > >Regards,   Martin.
% > >
% > >
% > >#-#-#  Martin J. Du"rst, World Wide Web Consortium
% > >#-#-#  mailto:duerst@w3.org   http://www.w3.org
% > >
% > Bill Semich
% > President and Founder
% > .NU Domain Ltd
% > http://whats.nu
% > bill@mail.nic.nu
% > 
% > 
% 
% 
% #-#-#  Martin J. Du"rst, World Wide Web Consortium
% #-#-#  mailto:duerst@w3.org   http://www.w3.org
% 
% 


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--bill