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RE: draft-arkko-ipv6-transition-guidelines WGLC
This whole thread reminds me of the Adventure endgame where
it says "CAVE DOOR CLOSING" - the end of all things and time
to take inventory. We have gathered 6to4, teredo, 6rd, and
maybe even a little isatap and tunnel broker in our collective
treasure bag. Now mix them all up, shake well, and what pops
out is the Internet Routing Overlay Network (IRON).
Fred
fred.l.templin@boeing.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org [mailto:owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org] On Behalf Of Gert Doering
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:51 AM
> To: Mohacsi Janos
> Cc: Gunter Van de Velde (gvandeve); Rémi Després; Randy Bush; Cameron Byrne; IPv6 v6ops
> Subject: Re: draft-arkko-ipv6-transition-guidelines WGLC
>
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 07:34:48PM +0200, Mohacsi Janos wrote:
> > On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, Gunter Van de Velde (gvandeve) wrote:
> > > Can be mananaged... but... if you use 6to4, then do you know the person
> > > running the relays? Do you even know who is running the relays? And why
> > > should the people running the relays care about you if you are not there
> > > direct customer?
> >
> > If a provider is encouraging to use 6to4, it will provide 6to4 relay for
> > their customers: announcing anycast 6to4 relay address to them (probably
> > only for them). Provider is monitoring operational status of 6to4 relay,
>
> And the response traffic takes this relay, because...?
>
> > traffic volume etc. plus help debugging MTU problems... Yes I know, this
> > is can be done only for outgoing direction.... But if every 6to4 relay
> > provider would be doing the same....
>
> "If". But this is not so, and therefore, 6to4 with anycast relay is
> just not something that makes sense for global traffic.
>
> > For example I used to know who is running the 6to4 relay used by me...(me
> > and network operation team). For 1.5 years I don't care much about 6to4
> > relay anymore since I am using native IPv6 both at home and at work.
>
> Our (well-maintained!!) 6to4 relay works very well for traffic between
> our users and our IPv6-enabled machines - but as soon as the users have
> native IPv6, no more need for the relay...
>
> Gert Doering
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