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RE: Proposed agenda for IPv6 Operations - IETF 77



Fred,

As far as I can tell, the SAM proposal is a new transitional
technology and protocol also. RANGER and SAM are addressing
very similar problem spaces, and I think their eligibility
for inclusion in the v6ops agenda should be considered on
equal terms.

Thanks - Fred
fred.l.templin@boeing.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fred Baker [mailto:fred@cisco.com]
> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 10:28 PM
> To: Templin, Fred L
> Cc: IPv6 Operations; Ron Bonica; Kurt Erik Lindqvist
> Subject: Re: Proposed agenda for IPv6 Operations - IETF 77
> 
> I have a question on these.
> 
> Per the abstract of VET, "VET can also be considered as version 2 of the Intra-Site Automatic Tunnel
> Addressing Protocol (i.e., "ISATAPv2")." I tend to agree; with routing, next hop determination, and a
> "Subnetwork Encapsulation and Adaptation Layer (SEAL)", I don't think this is an operational
> description. I think this belongs discussed in rrg, rtgarea/rtgwg, or *maybe* int-area.
> 
> How about you and I discuss this Monday and you convince me that this is within the charter of IPv6
> Operations. I think it is that which was explicitly placed outside the charter - transitional
> technologies and protocol development.
> 
> 
> On Mar 20, 2010, at 2:31 AM, Templin, Fred L wrote:
> 
> > Fred,
> >
> > The new agenda posted on the webpages does not seem to match the one
> > you posted to the list:
> >
> >   http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/10mar/agenda/v6ops.html
> >
> > Seeing that there are new additions, I would like to propose to add the
> > RANGER, VET and SEAL trilogy - preferably as the final session on
> > Friday, as I have two other conflicts for the earlier portion of that session.
> > The talk would require 15min, and would cover all three documents
> > together (i.e., not as three separate talks). The documents are here:
> >
> >   http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc5720.txt
> >   http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-templin-intarea-vet
> >   http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-templin-intarea-seal
> >
> > Thanks - Fred
> > fred.l.templin@boeing.com
> >
> > From: owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org [mailto:owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org] On Behalf Of Fred Baker
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 2:06 PM
> > To: IPv6 Operations
> > Subject: Proposed agenda for IPv6 Operations - IETF 77
> >
> > Comments please... Basically I am putting three security issues and two 3GPP-relevant drafts on
> Monday morning and the remainder on Friday morning. Each discussion gets about half an hour. If time
> permits in the meeting, I'll pull agenda items forward from Friday to Monday. I have two drafts on
> here that were not marked for v6ops but the authors asked me to include; next time I'd appreciate it
> if folks used the draft-*-v6ops-* naming convention; it makes my job easier. If I have missed
> anything, let me know.
> > IPv6 Operations - IETF 77
> >
> > Monday 22 March, 9:00 AM
> >
> > Agenda bashing
> >
> > Recommended Simple Security Capabilities in Customer Premises Equipment for Providing Residential
> IPv6 Internet Service
> > 18-Feb-10, <draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-simple-security-09.txt>
> > Advanced Security for IPv6 CPE
> > 8-Mar-10, <draft-vyncke-advanced-ipv6-security-01.txt>
> > Routing Loops using ISATAP and 6to4: Problem Statement and Proposed Solutions
> > 1-Feb-10, <draft-nakibly-v6ops-tunnel-loops-01.txt>
> >
> > IPv6 in 3GPP Evolved Packet System
> > 24-Feb-10, <draft-korhonen-v6ops-3gpp-eps-01.txt>
> > Mobile Networks Considerations for IPv6 Deployment
> > 8-Mar-10, <draft-koodli-ipv6-in-mobile-networks-01.txt>
> > Friday 26 March, 9:00 AM
> >
> > Emerging Service Provider Scenarios for IPv6 Deployment
> > 23-Feb-10, <draft-carpenter-v6ops-isp-scenarios-01.txt>
> > Unicast Transmission of IPv6 Multicast Messages on Link-layer
> > 15-Feb-10, <draft-gundavelli-v6ops-l2-unicast-00.txt>
> > Neighbor Cache Protection in Neighbor Discovery Protocol
> > 2-Mar-10, <draft-jiang-v6ops-nc-protection-01.txt>
> > DHCPv6 Prefix Delegation as IPv6 Migration Tool in Cellular Networks
> > 16-Feb-10, <draft-sarikaya-v6ops-prefix-delegation-00.txt>
> > Advanced Requirements for IPv6 Customer Edge Routers
> > 8-Mar-10, <draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-bis-02.txt>
> >
> >
> > http://www.ipinc.net/IPv4.GIF
> >
> 
> http://www.ipinc.net/IPv4.GIF