Re: NetConf over SOAP normative reference issue

["Randy Presuhn" <randy_presuhn@mindspring.com>]

Hi -

Are you suggesting we re-cast the document in terms of SOAP 1.2,
and drop the BEEP dependency?

Randy

> From: "McDonald, Ira" <imcdonald@sharplabs.com>
> To: <netconf@psg.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:53 AM
> Subject: NetConf over SOAP normative reference issue
>
> Hi,
>
> [Bert Wijnen asked me to pass on this comment.]
>
> The latest NetConf over SOAP <draft-ietf-netconf-soap-04.txt>
> has a serious problem for advancement on the IETF "standards
> track", to whit, these two normative references:
>
>    [3]   Box, D., Ehnebuske, D., Kakivaya, G., Layman, A., Mendelsohn,
>          N., Nielsen, H., Thatte, S. and D. Winer, "Simple Object Access
>          Protocol (SOAP) 1.1", W3C Note NOTE-SOAP-20000508, May 2000,
>          <http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/NOTE-SOAP-20000508>.
>
>    [16]  O'Tuathail, E. and M. Rose, "Using the Simple Object Access
>          Protocol (SOAP) in Blocks Extensible Exchange Protocol (BEEP)",
>          RFC 3288, June 2002, <http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3288.txt>.
>
> SOAP/1.1 is a W3C Note.  It will never advance on the W3C "standards
> track".  In fact, W3C has approved SOAP/1.2 as a final Recommendation.
>
> RFC 3288 was illegitimately published with the same normative
> reference dependency without a formal IESG variance.
>
> We've encountered this problem in our IEEE/ISTO Printer Working Group
> (PWG) work on management of multifunction devices using Web services.
>
> Please don't use SOAP/1.1 (or WSDL/1.1) in NetConf solutions.  This
> perpetuates non-interoperability and breaks IETF process rules.
>
> Cheers,
> - Ira, co-editor of PWG WIMS (Web-based Imaging System Mgmt Service)
>   ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/wd/wd-wims10-20050303.pdf
>
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839
> phone: +1-906-494-2434
> email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com
>
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