NetConf over SOAP normative reference issue

["McDonald, Ira" <imcdonald@sharplabs.com>]

Hi,

[Bert Wijnen asked me to pass on this comment.]

The latest NetConf over SOAP <draft-ietf-netconf-soap-04.txt>
has a serious problem for advancement on the IETF "standards
track", to whit, these two normative references:

   [3]   Box, D., Ehnebuske, D., Kakivaya, G., Layman, A., Mendelsohn,
         N., Nielsen, H., Thatte, S. and D. Winer, "Simple Object Access
         Protocol (SOAP) 1.1", W3C Note NOTE-SOAP-20000508, May 2000,
         <http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/NOTE-SOAP-20000508>.

   [16]  O'Tuathail, E. and M. Rose, "Using the Simple Object Access
         Protocol (SOAP) in Blocks Extensible Exchange Protocol (BEEP)",
         RFC 3288, June 2002, <http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3288.txt>.

SOAP/1.1 is a W3C Note.  It will never advance on the W3C "standards
track".  In fact, W3C has approved SOAP/1.2 as a final Recommendation.

RFC 3288 was illegitimately published with the same normative
reference dependency without a formal IESG variance.

We've encountered this problem in our IEEE/ISTO Printer Working Group 
(PWG) work on management of multifunction devices using Web services.

Please don't use SOAP/1.1 (or WSDL/1.1) in NetConf solutions.  This
perpetuates non-interoperability and breaks IETF process rules.

Cheers,
- Ira, co-editor of PWG WIMS (Web-based Imaging System Mgmt Service)
  ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/wd/wd-wims10-20050303.pdf

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839
phone: +1-906-494-2434
email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com

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