RE: Where do we go from here?

[Andy Bierman <abierman@cisco.com>]

At 07:20 PM 8/9/2002 -0700, Randy Presuhn wrote:
>Hi -
>
>> From: "Ken Crozier" <kcrozier@cisco.com>
>> To: "Randy Bush" <randy@psg.com>
>> Cc: "xml list" <xmlconf@ops.ietf.org>
>> Subject: RE: Where do we go from here?
>> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 18:49:33 -0700
>> Message-ID: <EBEGIPNNIJBNPFELPOLGKEJGCAAA.kcrozier@cisco.com>
>> In-Reply-To: <E17dIIW-0007Kn-00@rip.psg.com>
>...
>> The model i see going forward is that there are: Applications, boxes and
>> humans. Boxes will receive data from Applications and humans. When Humans
>> connect to the boxes they are most likely going to type in CLI. The
>> connection between the applications and the Boxes is what i was referring
>> to.
>...
>
>As long as the CLI protocol and the "something else" used for
>machine-to-machine configuration differ in any substantial
>way, many of the objections to SNMP that we have heard from
>various operator communities will remain.

good point. Noting that not all CLIs are created equal (part of the problem right there),
there are inherent incompatibilities between a CLI intended for humans and a
machine to machine protocol, that XML will not solve whatsoever.  There is
an ongoing debate whether the IETF should attempt to standardize a CLI.
This is separate from this debate, which is what should the IETF do about
a machine-oriented API for network configuration.


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> Randy Presuhn          BMC Software, Inc.  SJC-1.3141
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Andy


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