Re: Incomplete XML Draft

[Jon Saperia <saperia@jdscons.com>]

On Tuesday 25 June 2002 03:15 pm, Chen, Weijing wrote:
> I would say that I am *not* interested in this BOF/WG discussing XML
> as a candidate replacement for SNMP.  I view SNMP as plenty useful for
> monitoring.  For my part, I am not looking for a panacea NM protocol.
> Perhaps others are.
> [Chen, Weijing] Yes, SNMP is good for monitoring (Simple Network
> Monitoring Protocol). But as a service provider, we have more work than
> simply monitoring the network. We have installation, configuration,
> service provisioning, service activation, fault monitoring, fault
> analysis, performance data collection, SLA threshold monitoring, trend
> analysis, traffic engineering, traffic forecasting, etc. No new
> equipment or new service can be rollout or deployed until there is
> complete management and operation solution in place. We all want a quick
> solution, but we also want an extensible if not complete solution
> initially.

To me this is well said and the crux of the issue. We have spent a lot of 
time fighting about how one moves data around, SNMP, COPS, HTTP, etc. 
etc. That is not where the tough problem for management lies. Management 
is a data management and relationship problem and in order to meet the 
requirements of an integrated system such as the one proposed above, we 
have to think more broadly. When we get that done, we need to create the 
data elements (MIB object, Classes, or whatever), and then move them 
around. We probably already have too many ways (some better than others)  
any one could be made to do the job.  If this is just one more way to move 
data over the wire it is not too interesting (I really like XML for 
representing a human readable config though).

Once we decide on standard configuration objects/classes the protocols 
will take care of themselves though there is much more to this than the 
raw protocol issues, e.g., XML-RPC does not solve any interesting problems.

/jon


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