RE: [AVT] Comments on draft-ietf-avt-rtcp-xr-mib-02

["Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <bwijnen@lucent.com>]

I can't recall from the top of my head why we did it this
way (certainly right now after a long IETF week).

Maybe we inherited it from the time when we had to describe
the SMI using a STD and some informational RFCs.

Anyway, I am a bit reluctant to go try and change the 
boiler plate. It took a while to get everyone to agree, 
and since it is just boilerplate, people can just cut and
paste it. 

One problem also is that if we do change the boiler-plate
(once again? some people would say) then I can see that
for a period of about a year we're going to see that
some authors use the old boilerplate, others use the 
new one. And what should we say then? 
So that alone for me is a reason to not change unless we
find a "fatal flaw" in the current template.

Reasonable?

If not, I ask that ietfmibs subscribers pls speak up with good
reasoning as to why they want to see the change (or not).

Bert

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ietfmibs@ops.ietf.org 
> [mailto:owner-ietfmibs@ops.ietf.org]On
> Behalf Of Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 16:32
> To: Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
> Cc: Magnus Westerlund; ietfmibs@ops.ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [AVT] Comments on draft-ietf-avt-rtcp-xr-mib-02
> 
> 
> Bert,
> 
> This sounds like a proposal to change the MIB documents boilerplate. 
> 
> Comments?
> 
> Dan
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Magnus Westerlund [mailto:magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 5:19 PM
> > To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
> > Cc: IETF AVT WG; Alan Clark; Amy Pendleton; Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
> > Subject: Re: [AVT] Comments on draft-ietf-avt-rtcp-xr-mib-02
> > 
> > Okay, then it shouldn't be changed.
> > 
> > However, I thought the way of referencing was bulky and one 
> > can easily get the impression that there is some error with 
> > the repeated STD number, instead of it being one standard 
> > described in several RFCs.
> > 
> > I think something like the below would be more easy to read. 
> > I could even thing to simply go to the [] references. But 
> > that probably is an issue if one would use numbered references.
> > 
> >     This memo specifies a MIB
> >     module that is compliant to the SMIv2, which is described 
> > in STD 58
> >     (RFC 2578 [RFC2578],RFC 2579 [RFC2579] and RFC 2580 [RFC2580]).
> > 
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > Magnus
> > 
> > 
> > Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote:
> > > Actually this text MUST be past-and copied from 
> > > http://www.ops.ietf.org/mib-boilerplate.html.
> > > 
> > > But. As it is being stated there:
> > > 
> > >  In general, if you think this text needs changes, please send an 
> > > email message to the ietfmibs@ops.ietf.org mailing list or to the 
> > > responsible Area Director, Bert Wijnen.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > 
> > > Dan
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > >>-----Original Message-----
> > >>From: avt-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:avt-bounces@ietf.org] On 
> > Behalf Of 
> > >>Magnus Westerlund
> > >>Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 4:36 PM
> > >>To: IETF AVT WG; Alan Clark; Amy Pendleton
> > >>Subject: [AVT] Comments on draft-ietf-avt-rtcp-xr-mib-02
> > >>
> > >>Hi,
> > >>
> > >>Mostly editorial comments:
> > >>
> > >>1. Section 1: Could you please write the reference to STD 58 in 
> > >>another way. For example: STD 58 (RFC 2578, 2579, and 2580).
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > 
> > Magnus Westerlund
> > 
> > Multimedia Technologies, Ericsson Research EAB/TVA/A
> > 
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