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Re: Moving forward with VCAT/LCAS...



Hi Huub, I think you hit the crux of the issue. We (well I) outlined a possible solution to a particular "member sharing" scenario in the draft. Whether that is the right scenario and solution seems to be the discussion. See below for more comments.

Cheers
Greg B.

Huub van Helvoort wrote:
Hello Greg,

You wrote:

Hi CCAMPers, at the Vancouver meeting the status of the VCAT/LCAS
draft was discussed and there seemed to be two possible additions to
the requirements section of the draft. From the slide presentation
these were:

(a) Be able to set up member LSPs (and data plane LSPs -- server connections) prior to creation of VCG (Virtual Concatenation Group).

If there are more such members would they have a relation with
each other? e.g. a "pool" of member LSPs for a single VCG or for
multiple VCGs that exist between the same end-points.
--> The solution that we (okay I'll take the blame) outlined in the draft assumes that we know ahead of time that we are going to do such a thing and we setup a "call" that can contain multiple VCGs and then can throw all the "pool LSPs" into that call to be shared amongst the different VCGs under control of a modified Notify message (we didn't furnish details, just sketched how this could be done if someone really wanted to do this...) Some folks find the notion of multiple VCGs per call somewhat objectionable...

(b) “Member” LSPs (data plane and control plane) can exist after a
VCG using them has been removed.

Will they be returned to the "pool" (if the previous answer is yes).
--> I don't know. I guess that they could be used for other things. In the member sharing case that we (okay I) outlined in the draft they could be either returned to the pool or torn down (i.e. the pool size could change).

For those interested in VCAT/LCAS what is your opinion on these additional requirements? This is a WG draft so polling of the list is required (right Adrian?). I'll clean up the language if there is a desire to add these to the current draft. Note that these
requirements may break or require rework of the current "multiple
co-signaled member sets" solution in the draft.

Cheers, Huub.


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