RE: Closing the GELS Mailing List

["Attila Takacs (IJ/ETH)" <Attila.Takacs@ericsson.com>]

Hi Don,

This sounds good, however I doubt that it can be smoothly enforced. How
to determine when a discussion is to be moved to the gels list, and,
maybe, when is it eligible to be moved back to ccamp? It will be
difficult to follow up mixed threads.

On the other hand, I suspect that most of the ccamp list members are
also subscribed to the gels list so I do not really see the benefit of
having two lists; expect setting different filtering rules in your
mailer (well, this might be an argument enough in itself :-))

Best regards,
Attila

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org 
> [mailto:owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org] On Behalf Of Don Fedyk
> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 4:41 PM
> To: PAPADIMITRIOU Dimitri; Adrian Farrel; ccamp@ops.ietf.org; gels
> Cc: Ross Callon
> Subject: RE: Closing the GELS Mailing List
> 
> Hi Adrian
> 
> Dmitri does have a point that if there is a topic that heads 
> into the "weeds" we could direct it to the GELS list explicitly.  
> 
> Is there a cost of keeping it open?
> 
> Regards,
> Don  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org 
> [mailto:owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org] On Behalf Of PAPADIMITRIOU Dimitri
> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 10:00 AM
> To: Adrian Farrel; ccamp@ops.ietf.org; gels
> Cc: Ross Callon
> Subject: RE: Closing the GELS Mailing List
> 
> adrian,
> 
> you could leave the gels list for the list for the 
> techno-specific discussions and the ccamp list for the 
> non-techno specific discussions
> 
> in any case, i believe the value of gels was so far to allow 
> open discussion on a topic that was on charter 
> 
> -> question: does proposed incorporation in charter (with 
> milestones to
> be better shaped inline with progress of IEEE) elevate any 
> other need ?
> complete decoupling of discussion has been shown to be 
> difficult to be realized in the past
> 
> thanks,
> -dimitri.
> 
> 
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org
> > [mailto:owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel
> > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:27 AM
> > To: ccamp@ops.ietf.org; gels
> > Cc: Ross Callon
> > Subject: Closing the GELS Mailing List
> > 
> > We propose to close the GELS mailing list.
> > 
> > Loa wrote...
> > 
> > > I tend to support this, but it begs two questions:
> > >
> > > - when will the charter update be ack'ed?
> > 
> > I don't know, and I can't promise that it will be ack'ed. but the 
> > Routing ADs appear to support the change.
> > 
> > > - in the (unlikely) case where we don't get an ack for  gels work 
> > > the gels-list won't be needed anyhow, so;  isn't the 
> effect of the 
> > > of your statement below that  the gels-list is dead as of now? 
> > > Especially since the  on thing we are discussing at the moment is 
> > > the charter  update and this is on the ccamp list??
> > 
> > Absolutely.
> > 
> > I'll give you all a last chance to scream.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Adrian
> 
> 
>