Re: comments on draft-ietf-sming-reqs-03.txt

[Jon Saperia <saperia@jdscons.com>]

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jon Saperia [mailto:saperia@jdscons.com]
> > 
> >     1. I agree with your points about learning from our past 
> > and keeping that 
> > in mind as we evolve the SMI. We are in danger of adding significant 
> > cruft/complexity to something that novice engineers already find more 
> > complicated than necessary. Novice engineers are the ones 
> > that most often do a 
> > lot of this work. I observe that much of this cruft and 
> > complexity existed 
> > prior to the desire to merge SMI and SPPI.
> 
> [Dave] Absolutely, simplifying the language is an important goal. Would not
> enabling reuse and removing some of the weirdness and arcane rules of the
> SMI help achieve this? 

Dave, I believe that could be done without creating an new syntax.
> > 
> >     2. One of the points that I made several times before the 
> > WG formed, and 
> > since at WG meetings is that some of the changes (you listed 
> > some) seem to 
> > offer little practical value and will be disruptive. If I 
> > thought that adding 
> > semicolons at the end of each line or changing the 
> > capitolization rules would 
> > advance the state of management, I would be be all for them. 
> > I just have not 
> > been convinced that they will.
> 
> [Dave] Please note that the requirements do not require semicolons nor
> specify capitalization rules. It sounds like you are ready to start
> discussing the current language proposal, not the requirements. 
> > 
> > 
If we were only discussing requirements we would not have started with the 
nmrg document as the baseline. Something I was never particularly fond of. You 
and I have had several conversations about 'improvements' to the SMI. I have 
given some examples in my previous notes. None of which require a significant 
change of syntax but which would yield results which I think we all would 
want, e.g, inheritance improvements etc.
> 
I think we can agree to a very short list of improvements. That should be the 
starting point.
> 

Thanks,
/jon
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