Re: comments on draft-ietf-sming-reqs-02.txt

[Juergen Schoenwaelder <schoenw@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de>]

>>>>> Jason, Jamie writes:

Jason> Juergen & Frank,

Jason> thanks for the extensive feedback.  I have finally gotten
Jason> through all 87 points.

Jason> 1.  I have incorporated the editorial comments into the draft.

Great, thanks.

Jason> 2.  As for requirements that should be moved - the document
Jason> reflects the consensus of the requirements discussions.  If the
Jason> working group decides it is desirable to move requirements from
Jason> rejected to accepted, etc., then I will move them in the
Jason> document.

The purpose of a WG last call is to check whether the document indeed
reflects consensus. Obviously, some WG members that have been involved
in all meetings etc. think it does not reflect consensus.

Jason> I am not sure how to interpret the lack of responses to your
Jason> email (or even the period of quiet after the last call) - given
Jason> that tomorrow is a holiday in the U.S., I will optimistically
Jason> assume that many people are taking vacation and will be
Jason> responding next week :)

It is hard to argue about silence. But it is the WG chair's job to
determine concensus and to take any actions which help to determine
concensus (such as putting up deadlines). The deadline for IDs is July
20 and I hope that we are done with the final version by that time.

Jason> 3.  As for totally dropping from the document requirements with
Jason> no motivation, I will have to abdicate to the WG chair (Dave
Jason> are you there???).  Is it sufficient to make sure they are in
Jason> rejected section, or should they be totally removed from the
Jason> document?  Only one requirement in the accepted section,
Jason> "Tables", has no motivation - you had another issue with this
Jason> requirement anyway.  The remaining with no motivation are in
Jason> the rejected section.

I think there is a difference between a requirement which never was
really formulated (a requirement without any motivation is in my view
not complete) and a requirement which was formulated, discussed and
finally rejected. 

But you right: we need guidance from the WG chair on how to apply our
rules.

/js

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