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#56 i18n
Hi -
> Message-ID: <3ADE0297.96F614E6@enterasys.com>
> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:09:43 -0400
> From: David Harrington <dbh@enterasys.com>
> Reply-To: dbh@enterasys.com
> To: sming WG <sming@ops.ietf.org>
> Subject: #56 i18n
>
> Fred Baker made it very clear as IESG chair that all documents submitted
> for standards advancement should be done in English to ensure a large
> enough body of reviewers exists to provide industry-wide review.
..
Many MIBs are never subjected to the standards process.
> I fear making mib descriptions i18n capable would encourage development
> of mibs written in languages that most developers could not read, and
> that would hurt interoperability.
A specification should be intelligible to the community
of developers and users that will use that MIB. Many
MIBs never see use outside the organizations that defined
them.
> I understand that it is frustrating for those who do not speak English
> as their primary language to be forced to use English. However, the
> purpose of standards is to improve interoperability.
..
However, the language we are defining is used to define
more than just standards-track stuff.
Let the RFC submission / publication process do its job of
weeding out horrible things like the name of the city where
I live, and tricky things like non-English words and phrases
that fit into seven-bit ASCII. We don't have to replicate
that service in our language definition, just as our language
definition doesn't need to recapitulate the I-D and RFC rules
for page breaks.
We are not doing the world a service by preventing
organizations from using the tools we define to develop
specifications that their developers can understand.
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>From rpresuhn Wed Apr 18 14:42:09 2001
To: vincentbad@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: *** AACI Lunch/Research on Asian MSM's ***
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Hi -
> Message-ID: <20010418213135.16752.qmail@web6404.mail.yahoo.com>
> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:31:35 -0700 (PDT)
> From: VincentBad <vincentbad@yahoo.com>
> Subject: *** AACI Lunch/Research on Asian MSM's ***
> To: Larry Cabradilla <onidranreb@yahoo.com>
> Cc: "Roger Francisco, KnP" <franciscorgr@aol.com>,
> "Rommel de Guzman, GAPA" <gnralrommel@juno.com>,
> "Romy B. Lim, KnP" <RBLim100@aol.com>,
> "Timothy Hipsley, KnP" <tim@musicmagician.com>,
> "Tim Nguyen and Randy Presuhn, KnP" <rpresuhn@dorothy.bmc.com>,
> "Larry Lowe, KnP" <llowe1@msn.com>,
> "LeonardVP, KnP" <LeonardVP@aol.com>,
> "Michael Rabanal" <mrabanal@dc.com>, "Myron AC, KnP" <MyronAC@aol.com>,
> Richard Dolen <Richdolen@aol.com>,
> "Robert Flora, KnP" <rgflora@yahoo.com>,
> Henry Bui <azzncutie@yahoo.com>,
> Henry Giovannetti <hgiovannet@aol.com>,
> "Jeff Lewis, KnP" <JeffSanJo@aol.com>,
> "Jeff and Theo, KnP" <JeffandTheo@aol.com>,
> John Lindquist <jhnl1959@yahoo.com>,
> "John Morgan/Leon Lemos, KnP" <LEMOSMOR@aol.com>,
> "John Lindquist, KnP" <JhnL@pacbell.net>,
> "Jojo Soriano, KnP" <jojos@seedesign.com>,
> "Jorge Villasica, KnP" <jville469@aol.com>,
> Justin Ho <justinho@mindspring.com>,
> "Edgar San Diego, KnP" <EdSanDiego@aol.com>,
> "Edgardo San Diego \(W\)" <edgars@supertex.com>,
> "Ed Horn, KnP" <ehorn@sirius.com>,
> "Eric Claravall, KnP" <LittlePrince72@yahoo.com>,
> "Estrella Zamodio, KnP" <estrella.zamodio@sun.com>,
> "Alan Neri" <alanneri@yahoo.com>,
> Alvin Malonzo <am3197@msg.pacbell.com>,
> Amor Santiago <amorsantiago@msn.com>,
> "Ben Cruz, KnP AOL" <cruzinbenz@aol.com>,
> "Ben Cruz, KnP" <chayanus@yahoo.com>,
> "Bret Lebeck, KnP" <blebeck@pacbell.net>,
> "Brian, KnP" <brvose@aol.com>,
> "Bryan Lagpacan, KnP" <Blagpacan@creativelabs.com>,
> "Carlos of San Leandro \(KnP\)" <callous_t@yahoo.com>,
> Dalton Harrison <dharrison@hairdresser.net>,
> Wil Agbay - KnP AOL <wnagbay@aol.com>
> In-Reply-To: <20010418144004.24373.qmail@web1305.mail.yahoo.com>
..
Please consider using a mailer that doesn't disclose everyone's
email addresses to everyone else. Just use BCC instead of CC.
It's not a problem for me, since my address is pretty widely
published, but others might be sensitive.
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Randy Presuhn randy_presuhn@bmc.com
Voice: +1 408 546-1006 BMC Software, Inc. 1-3141
Fax: +1 408 965-0359 2141 North First Street
http://www.bmc.com/ San José, California 95131 USA
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My opinions and BMC's are independent variables.
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