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At the plenary, we agreed that I would draft a message to NANOG to ask for feedback on features such as notifications & channels. Here is my first cut at such a message. Let me propose that if we don't get enough responses, we actually go to NANOG and do a presentation.

Subject: YOUR opinions needed for Network Configuration Protocols
Reply-to: netconf@ops.ietf.org


Dear NANOG folk,


The NETCONF working group of the IETF is currently developing a collection of protocol specifications for the configuration of network elements. This work originated from a roadshow that many of us went on to learn what operators of different types want in such a protocol. Now we would like to checkpoint with you on some of the contents of those specifications.

The protocol itself is split into two parts: an abstract set of functions, and a binding to specific protocols, including SSH, BEEP, and SOAP over HTTP(s). Each protocol has its pluses and minuses.

As envisioned, the base protocol supports an option for notifications. The idea is that a manager would be notified of configuration-related events, such as a card insertion or removal, and act appropriately to configure the element. The envisioned format of notifications is either reliable syslog from RFC 3195 or something similar. Because notifications are asynchronous, one writes code that implements a dispatch mechanism that discriminates on the type of event. Notifications would be an option that not all managers would have to implement.

The working group is attempting to determine whether notifications should remain as part of the base specification. Here are the choices facing the group:

Option A. Leave them in as currently specified, and require all protocol mappings to support them.
Option B. Allow them to be asynchronous, but don't use RFC 3195, and require all mappings to support them.
Option C. Remove them entirely from the specification and let vendors implement RFC 3195 or other notification mechanisms as they see fit (for instance, existing syslog).


Do you have an opinion on which of these options you would like?

Related, the NETCONF base protocol currently makes use of the notion of channels. Channels are a basic concept in the BEEP protocol, and they exist in SSH as well. However, use of multiple channels in SSH is not supported in common SSH applications. They are completely absent in HTTP, and so the notion of a session would have to be introduced in the mapping.

Channels provide a number of benefits. First, they divorce the idea of who is the session initiator and who is the device manager. This means that either the network element or the manager could initiate a TCP connection. This is useful when NATs and firewalls exist between a device and the manager. Channels are also necessary to implement a way to determine progress of a configuration operation.

The working group has three choices:

Option A. Keep channels in the base document and require each mapping to support them.
Option B. Make channels optional.
Option C. Remove channels from the base protocol and allow their use
in the protocol bindings.


Which option do you prefer?

If you would like to read the entire set of documents, you will find them by going to the NETCONF working group charter page:
http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/netconf-charter.html


Eliot

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