RE: netconf WG charter proposal

[Andy Bierman <abierman@cisco.com>]

At 01:02 PM 4/14/2003 -0700, David T. Perkins wrote:
>HI,
>
>Syslog... Let's see, the payload of syslog messages is unstructured
>text, and there is no standard for them. And there is no standard
>for documenting the payload. Or did I miss this. (If so, please
>send me a URL or two). So you are saying that completely unstructured
>and undocumented text is the direction for the future?

I don't think Weijing is suggesting that we use unstructured text 
instead of XML encoding.  Look at the example in his previous mail:

    <rpc-notif>
        <cause>linkDown</cause>
        <source>
                <interface>Ethernet0/0</interface>
        <source>
    <rpc-notif>

He is saying (and I agree) that the XML data model does not
have to use ifIndex to identify the interface.  The agent
probably needs to know (internally) the ifIndex mapping for 
Ethernet0/0, but that doesn't mean that the XML data model 
must use it.

People have been incorrectly assuming that the XML data model 
will need to be tightly coupled to the SMI data model.  

Andy




>At 02:38 PM 4/14/2003 -0500, Chen, Weijing wrote:
>>Why do the mapping at all?  Why can we ditch the SNMP altogether,
>>configuration through XML, trap through syslog over XML, or structured
>>native XML traps over XML.  There is no much detailed trap information from
>>SNMP at the beginning.  All we got from most of equipments are linkUp/Down,
>>etc.  Most of equipments have more detailed information from syslog rather
>>than SNMP trap.
>
>Regards,
>/david t. perkins 
>
>
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