Re: [idn] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-idn-vidn-00.txt

["Mark Davis" <mark@macchiato.com>]

I agree completely.

a. There is no accepted set of rules for romanizations of all languages.
b. Moreover, to be useful according to the proposal, the romanization would
have to provide a "round-trip" mapping.
c. Furthermore, the romanizations will be subject to accidental collisions
between different scripts.
d. And finally, the mechanisms for doing romanization need to be fairly
sophisticated. Look at ICU's, for example:

http://oss.software.ibm.com/icu/userguide/Transliteration.html

Mark

(I'm replying to a slightly broader list on this message).

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Hoffman / IMC" <phoffman@imc.org>
To: <idn@ops.ietf.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 09:57
Subject: Re: [idn] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-idn-vidn-00.txt


> This document has a patent statement at the end of the document, but
> nothing appears in the IETF IPR directory for it. If they haven't
> already done so, it would be a good first gesture for the authors to
> follow RFC 2026 and put their statement in the IETF repository.
>
> As a second comment, please note that there is wide disagreement
> about any single method for phonemic transformations from other
> languages to English. This document specifically covers Korean, for
> which there are at least two different romanization schemes in
> current use. For a perfect example of this, one of the contributors
> to this working group offers two different romanized spellings of his
> last and first names:
>
> GIM Gyeongseog
> KIM Kyongsok
>
> The draft proposes that every possible romanization using each
> possible phoneme be kept by the authoritative DNS server, and only
> one combined romanization can be returned. This assumes that the
> complete set of romanization tables is known today, and that the set
> will never grow. Both of these assumptions may be incorrect.
>
> Further, there is the legacy problem. For example, both kim.com and
> gim.com exist today. Even if the romanizaiton table problem can be
> solved, the names returned would have to be different than current
> names. Maybe the authors could use a prefix hack similar to the ones
> the ACE authors have saddled ourselves with.
>
> --Paul Hoffman, Director
> --Internet Mail Consortium
>

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Subject: [idn] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-idn-vidn-00.txt


> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Internationalized Domain Name Working
Group of the IETF.
>
> Title : Virtually Internationalized Domain Names (VIDN)
> Author(s) : S. Shim
> Filename : draft-ietf-idn-vidn-00.txt
> Pages : 9
> Date : 15-Nov-00
>
> This document describes a method that internationalizes existing as
> well as future domain names in English, not making any change to the
> current DNS, not requiring separate name server or resolver, and not
> creating domain names in non-English languages. Based upon the
> knowledge of transliteration between a local language and English,
> the method allows a user to use virtual domain names in the user's
> preferred local language by converting them into the corresponding
> actual domain names in English that comply with the current DNS. The
> conversion takes place automatically and transparently in the user's
> applications before DNS queries are sent. The method uses the current
> DNS as it is and meets all the requirements of internationalized
> domain names as described in Wenzel and Seng [2].
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