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Re: simple security






On Wed, 24 Mar 2010, Mark Townsley wrote:

"simple-security" is "simple-minded". It is based on a security-model that is rapidly becoming obsolete, and comes at the cost of complexity in both the RG, the host, and the applications that have to try and work despite all the various rules for having their packets dropped.


As simple minded as the current CPE. The residential gateway users are familiar with the the current IPv4 NAT behaviour. What they usually expecting - something similar for IPv6:
1. longer IP address? - understandable, but I don't care.
2. No NAT? - ok I get reasonable amount of subnet from my provider - If CPE copes with it, I don't mind. 3. No firewall? - what a hell? what will protect my extra-precious-hacked NAS? - They will sell a separate firewall for me? - No thanks!
Your NAS should run link-local or ULA if you don't want it to reach the outside world.

How to configure the NAS for such a setup?
- If I use SLAAC? Do I have to prevent RAs with global prefix to be arrived to NAS? Do I have to filter on NAS? But what about the ULA? Do I get ULA via SLAAC? This requires a pretty complex setup.

- If I use DHCPv6? I have to configure DHCPv6 server not to distribute global address to NAS - only ULA...uh oh. Do we expect residential users to configure such a things in DHCPv6? in IPv4 they did not configure anything on DHCP..... Can I use DHCPv6 in every situation (if I use Mac OS X)?


- Do I have to put a different subnet the NAS than the computers to have separate address distribution policy? What happens to the discovery protocols - most of the NAS devices using some form of on-link discovery for setup applications? Do I have to go thru the CPE in order to transfer files? The performance will be horrific....CPEs was not designed for such a task - packet forwarding between LAN and WAN side is done by a few 100 Mhz processor - CPU power was selected by the limitation of broadband speed....

What setup do you think is working?

Best Regards,
		Janos Mohacsi