Outsourcing and Provisioning common model

["Yacine El Mghazli" <yacine.elmghazli@ms.alcatel.fr>]

Hi everybody,

At the last IETF meeting, Shai Herzog launched a discussion about a COPS
common model merging both outsourcing and provisioning modes. The fact was
that some recent drafts use COPS-PR to OUTSOURCE information towards the PDP
(umts, access-bind, sls...) and the goal was to identify where the 2 modes
meets and to agree on a common model.

This discussion was supposed to take place on the mailing list, but...
doesnt come !

Speaking as a co-author of the cops-sls draft, I'm wondering about this
common model and, after all, about the future of such practises.

thanks,
yacine

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Da Silva, Pedro" <pdasilva@orchestream.com>
To: <rap@ops.ietf.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 12:08 PM
Subject: RE: A question about SPPI


> Man, Ravi,
>
> The uniqueness clause also states that "The specified set of attributes
> provide a necessary and sufficient set of values by which to identify an
> instance of this PRC".
> As such does an optional attribute constitute a necessary one for
UNIQUENESS
> clauses?
> Also, considering the case where a UNIQUENESS clause's set is composed of
> optional attributes only, does that constitute a sufficient set by which
to
> identify an instance of the PRC?
>
> cheers,
> Pedro
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sahita, Ravi [mailto:ravi.sahita@intel.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 11:50 PM
> To: 'Man.M.Li@nokia.com'; rap@ops.ietf.org
> Subject: RE: A question about SPPI
>
>
> Man Li,
>
> The UNIQUENESS clause itself is optional. The SPPI does
> not put any constraints on which attributes can be specified
> in this clause other than -
> 1.  The attribute named in the PIB-INDEX clause may not be
>     present in the UNIQUENESS clause.
> 2. An attribute may not appear more than once in a UNIQUENESS
>    clause.
>
> So, yes, the UNIQUNESS clause can contain optional attributes
> as long as it follows the rules above.
>
> Hope that helps,
> Ravi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Man.M.Li@nokia.com [mailto:Man.M.Li@nokia.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 11:08 AM
> To: rap@ops.ietf.org
> Subject: A question about SPPI
>
>
> In a PIB table, some attributes can be optional. Should the UNIQUENESS
> clause exclude optional attributes? In other words, can a UNIQUENESS
clause
> contain any optional attributes?
>
> Man Li
>