RE: Charter questions

["Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <bwijnen@lucent.com>]

Appology. I meant draft-ietf-rap-acct-fr-pib-01.txt               
instead of draft-ietf-rap-frameworkpib-06

Cut and paste error. That framework-pib doc was one that
I had in my ciut and paste buffer too.... Guess why?

Bert 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kulkarni, Amol [mailto:amol.kulkarni@intel.com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 1:02 AM
> To: 'Wijnen, Bert (Bert)'; 'rap@ops.ietf.org'
> Cc: 'Randy Bush'
> Subject: RE: Charter questions
> 
> 
> 
> Bert,
> 
> I assume you meant draft-ietf-rap-feedback-fr-pib-01 when you wrote
> draft-ietf-rap-frameworkpib-06.
> 
> The [FEEDBACKFWRK] and [FEEDBACKPIB] DO NOT define a new accounting
> protocol. They are simply a tool for providing feedback on provisioned
> policy usage so that future policies may be 'tweaked' for better
> performance. As such they fall within the purview of COPS-PR 
> and PIBS; and
> just clarify certain points regarding feedback which are 
> ALREADY PRESENT in
> COPS-PR.
> 
> Also, there is an extra link on the RAP page which points to 
> an old draft.
> The latest drafts can be found here:
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rap-feedback-fr
wk-01.txt
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rap-feedback-fr-pib-01.txt

Thanks,
Amol

-----Original Message-----
From: Wijnen, Bert (Bert) [mailto:bwijnen@lucent.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 7:17 AM
To: 'rap@ops.ietf.org'
Cc: Randy Bush
Subject: Charter questions

Dear RAP WG,

Various people are asking me what the RAP WG is doing and
if it is staying with in its (intended) WG charter.

The questions are of the type of:

- draft-ietf-rap-frameworkpib-06
  the thought of yet another accounting protocol does 
  raise serious questions.

- draft-ietf-rap-access-bind-00.txt, 
  which *is* in fact a whole new AAA protocol,
  under the guise of a COPS extension. 

- it looks to me like COPS is being proposed as a AAA
  protocol for network access -- including 802.11, 
  Dialup, and even Mobile IP, as well as SIP and possibly
  a few other things. That pretty much covers the scope
  of AAA usage. 

As you can imagine, these type of comments come from the 
AAA side of the house.

Now... in the RAP WG charter, I do read:

   For the work on the [FEEDBACKFWRK] and [FEEDBACKPIB],
   the WG will work with other WGs (like AAA WG) to prevent 
   duplication and overlapping solutions. 

So what kind of action has the WG taken or WILL the WG take
in order to make sure that we do not overlap or compete 
in this space?

Thanks,
Bert Wijnen
(explicitly speaking as AD)