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RE: FW: Vlan draft - relationhip of tunnel attributes and egress-xxx attributes



Ok with me.

MS 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-radiusext@ops.ietf.org 
> [mailto:owner-radiusext@ops.ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bernard Aboba
> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 4:39 PM
> To: Congdon, Paul T (ProCurve); radiusext@ops.ietf.org
> Subject: RE: FW: Vlan draft - relationhip of tunnel 
> attributes and egress-xxx attributes
> 
> How about this (insert in Section 2.1, second paragraph):
> 
> "As defined in [RFC3580], the VLAN assigned via tunnel 
> attributes applies both to the ingress VLANID for untagged 
> packets (known as the PVID) and the egress VLANID for 
> untagged packets.
> In contrast, the Egress-VLANID attribute configures only the 
> egress VLANID for either tagged or untagged packets. The 
> Egress-VLANID attribute MAY be included in the same RADIUS 
> packet as [RFC3580] tunnel attributes; however, the 
> Egress-VLANID attribute is not necessary if it is being used 
> to configure the same untagged VLANID included in tunnel attributes.
> To configure an untagged VLAN for both ingress and egress, 
> the tunnel attrubutes of [RFC3580] MUST be used."
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "Congdon, Paul T (ProCurve)" <paul.congdon@hp.com>
> >To: <radiusext@ops.ietf.org>
> >Subject: FW: Vlan draft -  relationhip of tunnel attributes and 
> >egress-xxx attributes
> >Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:12:57 -0700
> >
> >
> >some how the list got dropped... Comments welcome.
> >
> >
> >________________________________
> >
> >From: Congdon, Paul T (ProCurve)
> >Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 8:05 PM
> >To: Sanchez, Mauricio (ProCurve)
> >Subject: RE: Vlan draft - relationhip of tunnel attributes and 
> >egress-xxx attributes
> >
> >
> >Ooops... Here are the suggested changes I was going to make.   Word
> >smithing expected... Replace the two paragraphs suggested with the 
> >following.
> >
> >"The tunnel attributes used for VLAN assignment described in 
> [RFC3580] 
> >configure both the ingress VLAN ID for untagged packets, 
> also know as 
> >the PVID, and the egress VLAN ID for untagged packets on 
> that same VLAN.
> >The Egress-VLANID configures only the egress VLAN ID for 
> either tagged 
> >or untagged packets.  It is not necessary to use the Egress-VLANID 
> >attribute to configure the same untagged VLANID that the tunnel 
> >attributes of [RFC3580] confiures.  These attributes can be used 
> >concurrently and MAY appear in the same RADIUS message.  To 
> configure 
> >an untagged VLAN for both ingress and egress the tunnel 
> attrubutes of 
> >[RFC3580] MUST be used."
> >
> >Paul
> >
> >
> >________________________________
> >
> >	From: owner-radiusext@ops.ietf.org
> >[mailto:owner-radiusext@ops.ietf.org] On Behalf Of Sanchez, Mauricio
> >(ProCurve)
> >	Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 5:44 PM
> >	To: radiusext@ops.ietf.org
> >	Subject: Vlan draft - relationhip of tunnel attributes 
> and egress-xxx 
> >attributes
> >
> >
> >
> >	Relationship of tunnel attributes and egress-xxx attributes
> >	address: mauricio.sanchez@hp.com Date first submitted: 4/27/06
> >	Reference: none
> >	Document: draft-ietf-radext-vlan-04.txt
> >	Comment type: T
> >	Priority: S
> >	Section: 2.1, 2.3
> >	Rationale/Explanation of issue:
> >	While the introduction acknowledges tunnel attributes from
> >rfc2868 and rfc3580, there is no guidance on their use with the 
> >egress-vlanid and egress-vlan-name attributes.  I suggest 
> formalizing 
> >the fact that they can be used concurrently and providing 
> guidance on 
> >their interaction/relationship.
> >
> >	Requested change:
> >
> >	1) To section 2.1 add the following paragraph between 
> the second and 
> >third paragraphs of the description section for egress-vlanid:
> >
> >	"Tunnel attributes, as described in [RFC2868] and 
> [RFC3580], and 
> >Egress-VLANID both can be used to configure the egress  VLAN for 
> >untagged packets.  These attributes can be used concurrently and MAY 
> >appear in the same RADIUS message.  When they do appear 
> concurrently, 
> >the list of allowed VLANs consists of the concatenation of all 
> >Egress-VLANID attributes and the Tunnel-Private-Group-ID(81) 
> attribute.
> >
> >	Egress-VLANID does not alter the ingress VLAN untagged 
> traffic on a 
> >port, also known as the PVID.  The tunnel attributes from 
> [RFC2868] and 
> >[RFC3580] should be relied upon instead to set the PVID."
> >
> >
> >	2) To section 2.3 add the following paragraph between 
> the first and 
> >second paragraphs of the description section for egress-vlan-name:
> >
> >	"Tunnel attributes, as described in [RFC2868] and 
> [RFC3580], and 
> >Egress-VLAN-Name both can be used to configure the egress VLAN for 
> >untagged packets.  These attributes can be used concurrently and MAY 
> >appear in the same RADIUS message.  When they do appear 
> concurrently, 
> >the list of allowed VLANs consists of the concatenation of all 
> >Egress-VLAN-Name attributes and the Tunnel-Private-Group-ID(81) 
> >attribute.
> >
> >	Egress-VLAN-Name does not alter the ingress VLAN for 
> untagged traffic 
> >on a port, also known as the PVID.  The tunnel attributes from 
> >[RFC2868] and [RFC3580] should be relied upon instead to set 
> the PVID."
> >
> >
> >	--------------------------------------------
> >	Mauricio Sanchez, CISSP
> >	Network Security Architect
> >	ProCurve Networking Business
> >	Hewlett Packard
> >	8000 Foothills Boulevard, ms 5557
> >	Roseville CA, 95747-5557
> >
> >	916.785.1910 Tel
> >	916.785.1815 Fax
> >	mauricio.sanchez@hp.com
> >	--------------------------------------------
> >
> 
> 
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