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Re: Issues for a bit more Discussion - Netconf Notifications

Sharon Chisholm wrote:

Hi

Ideally we will issue updates to the various transport mapping documents
with any required changes in order to be able to support notifications.
Presumably we can't start that work until the documents are published as
RFCs. We've been holding the text in our document for safe keeping
(although I agree the BEEP text is a bit broken currently).

Are we suggesting now is the time to remove this text from the document?
Where would it go? 

The key phrase here is 'required changes'.
We don't have app-level ACKs, so there should be no text
related to that.  If there are any required changes to
the transport documents, let's identify them now.

We should decide where they go, once we know what they are.
Sharon 

Andy



-----Original Message-----
From: Eliot Lear [mailto:lear@cisco.com] Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 11:28 AM 
To: Andy Bierman
Cc: Chisholm, Sharon (CAR:ZZ00); netconf@ops.ietf.org
Subject: Re: Issues for a bit more Discussion - Netconf Notifications

Andy,

The WG already decided we do not want app-level ACKs.
They are supposed to be removed completely.

My point was that you get this for free with BEEP (like so many other
things) simply by choosing your grouping of messages and how you would
process them (e.g., not waiting for the whole page).  You really need no
additional PROTOCOL support for those acknowledgments (although some
additional *application library* support on the part of the agent would
be necessary).
My comment (a) above is fairly clear -- we cannot create new BEEP features or in any way rely on BEEP features that do not exist in a Proposed Standard RFC. 

I agree.

Eliot

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