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Re: updated NETCONF charter text (replace instead of merge this time)



McDonald, Ira wrote:

Hi,

While I sympathize with the desire for a granular locking
mechanism, in the absence of a mandatory standard data model
for NetConf, the _meaning_ of a fine-grained lock is anyone's
guess.

Ira is quite correct.
Without a standard for object and instance naming,
there cannot be a standard for identifying which subset of the
configuration datastore is being locked.

Has anyone implemented partial locking yet?
Are you doing it by adding an Xpath expression parameter
to the lock command (hint, hint)?  What about instance naming though?

Sidebar:  I'm not impressed with the way ANY of the XML modeling
languages handle instance naming, but more on that another day...

Cheers,
- Ira


Andy

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839
phone: +1-906-494-2434
email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-netconf@ops.ietf.org [mailto:owner-netconf@ops.ietf.org]On
Behalf Of Balazs Lengyel
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:45 AM
Cc: Netconf (E-mail)
Subject: Re: updated NETCONF charter text (replace instead of merge this
time)


Hello Andy,
I believe that a granular locking mechanism should be included in the second phase.
Balazs

Andy Bierman wrote:
Description of Working Group:
Wes Hardaker is Technical Advisor for Security Matters

Configuration of networks of devices has become a critical
requirement
for operators in today's highly interoperable networks.
Operators from
large to small have developed their own mechanisms or used vendor
specific mechanisms to transfer configuration data to and from a
device, and for examining device state information which may impact
the configuration. Each of these mechanisms may be
different in various
aspects, such as session establishment, user authentication,
configuration data exchange, and error responses.

The Netconf Working Group is chartered to produce a
protocol suitable
for network configuration, with the following characteristics:

- Provides retrieval mechanisms which can differentiate between
  configuration data and non-configuration data
- Is extensible enough that vendors will provide access to all
  configuration data on the device using a single protocol
- Has a programmatic interface (avoids screen scraping and
  formatting-related changes between releases)
- Uses a textual data representation, that can be easily
  manipulated using non-specialized text manipulation tools.
- Supports integration with existing user authentication methods
- Supports integration with existing configuration database systems
- Supports network wide configuration transactions (with features
  such as locking and rollback capability)
- Is as transport-independent as possible
- Provides the following support for asynchronous notifications:
   - Specify the <hello> message (capability exchange) details to
     support notifications.
- Specify the application mapping details to support
notifications.
- Specify the protocol syntax and semantics of a
notification message.
   - Specify or select a notification content information model.
   - Specify a mechanism for controlling the delivery (turn on/off)
     of notifications during a session.
- Specify a mechanism for selectively receiving a configurable subset of
     all possible notification types.

The Netconf protocol will use XML for data encoding purposes,
because XML is a widely deployed standard which is supported
by a large number of applications. XML also supports
hierarchical data
structures.

The Netconf protocol should be independent of the data definition
language and data models used to describe configuration and state
data.

However, the authorization model used in the protocol is
dependent on
the data model. Although these issues must be fully addressed to
develop standard data models, only a small part of this work will be
initially addressed. This group will specify requirements
for standard
data models in order to fully support the Netconf protocol, such as:

- identification of principals, such as user names or distinguished
  names
- mechanism to distinguish configuration from
non-configuration data
- XML namespace conventions
- XML usage guidelines

It should be possible to transport the Netconf protocol
using several
different protocols. The group will select at least one suitable
transport mechanism, and define a mapping for the selected
protocol(s).
The initial work will be restricted to the following items:

- Netconf Protocol Specification, which defines the operational
  model, protocol operations, transaction model, data model
  requirements, security requirements, and transport layer
  requirements.

- Netconf over <Transport-TBD> Specification, which defines how
  the Netconf protocol is used with the transport protocol
  selected by the group, and how it meets the security and
  transport layer requirements of the Netconf Protocol
  Specification.. There will be a document of this type for
  each selected transport protocol.

The working group will take the XMLCONF Configuration Protocol
<draft-enns-xmlconf-spec-00.txt> as a starting point.

Additional Notification work will be addressed after the
initial work
is completed.

An individual submission Internet Draft has been proposed to the WG
as the starting point for the Notification work. The WG
shall adopt the
document identified as 'draft-chisholm-netconf-event-01.txt' as the
starting point for this work.

Goals and Milestones:
Done Working Group formed Done Submit initial
Netconf Protocol
draft Done Submit initial Netconf over (transport-TBD) draft Done Begin Working Group Last Call for the Netconf
Protocol draft
Done Begin Working Group Last Call for the Netconf over (transport-TBD) draft Done Submit final version of the Netconf Protocol draft to the IESG Done Submit final version of
the Netconf
over SOAP draft to the IESG Done Submit final version
of the Netconf
over BEEP draft to the IESG Done Submit final version
of the Netconf
over SSH draft to the IESG  Dec 05   Update charter
Jan 06   Submit first version of NETCONF Notifications document
Sep 06   Begin WGLC of NETCONF Notifications document
Dec 06 Submit final version of NETCONF Notifications
document to IESG for
            consideration





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