RE: Where do we go from here?

["Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <bwijnen@lucent.com>]

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: RJ Atkinson [mailto:rja@extremenetworks.com]
> Sent: woensdag 7 augustus 2002 22:59
> To: Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
> Cc: xml list
> Subject: Re: Where do we go from here?
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, August 7, 2002, at 04:32 , Wijnen, Bert (Bert) wrote:
> 
> > I think that Randy and I both have been saying/asking:
> >
> >   Have some more discussion on this mailing list and
> >   write documents that explain how XML (in any of these
> >   areas) adds a significant benefit and addresses a
> >   significant part of the Operator Requirements in the
> >   area of Configuration of Network Devices and Services
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bert
> 
> Bert,
> 
> 	I am confused.
> 
> 	Defining a standard transmission schema for moving (more or less 
> opaque) config information (whether XML or Sanskrit) over SSHv2 seems
> pretty useful and already has operator interest and some operator 
> experimentation.  That is my understanding of one of the two items
> that Margaret enumerated.  (It also happens to be the one I am
> interested in.)
>
See you claim "more or less opaque" and so it does not sound like
it has indeed anything to do with XML config. The BOF was to exploire
possible uses/needs of XML in the area of Config Management.

So as long as you do this in the context of "XML", then in my view
my question is valid.

> 	So I don't see how justifying XML is applicable to that issue.
> I am not following you all's reasoning here that I need to justify XML
> when the transmission schema ought to be essentially independent of
> choice of syntax.
> 
> 	I think I do understand why one would need to justify XML in the
> case of proposed work that actually would involve standardising all
> or part of an XML schema.
> 

If a side-result of the BOF is that operators want/need some std
mechanism to send config data from NOC to devices and vice versa,
then that is maybe something that needs attention. Not sure it
should be see in the context of or as a result of the XMLconfig
BOF.

> Confusedly yours,
> 
Did I succeed to un-confude you a bit?

Bert
> Ran
> rja@extremenetworks.com
> 

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