Re: What would a "better" system mean

["David T. Perkins" <dperkins@dsperkins.com>]

HI,

It looks like you were trying to be funny, but there are products
with no CLI, and have just a WEB interface and SNMP support.
So, there are cases where not having a CLI (or having it
in version 2) have made sense.

Decisions such as these depend on the development and usage
environment. If you have a development team with experience
with SNMP and portable SNMP libraries, but no development
experience or libraries for CLIs, then why supply a CLI?

At 09:23 AM 6/26/2002 -0700, Cullen Jennings wrote:

>I would not get too hung up on what has been deployed because pretty much
>every combination of SOAP/XML/HTTP/SSH/Telnet/Corba has been deployed in
>some non trivial way.
>
>I think the start is focusing on what the hard problems are. Then figure out
>how to make them so easy that people building equipment find it easier to
>build in the standard thing, than building in some half baked home grown
>CLI. This may be impossible but it seems to be the key item to making this
>useful in the long term.
>
>I have yet to been to a meeting planning the development schedule for a new
>product where someone said "We could shave 1 month off the schedule if, in
>the first version of the product, we only supported SNMP instead of CLI. We
>can add in CLI on version 2." Ok, so I have been sniffing something, but if
>there was something that reduced development effort and still solved the
>real problems - it would be fairly popular.
>
>Cullen
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-xmlconf@ops.ietf.org [mailto:owner-xmlconf@ops.ietf.org]On
>> Behalf Of RJ Atkinson
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 7:48 AM
>> To: Eliot Lear
>> Cc: xmlconf@ops.ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: Deja vu Again
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 26, 2002, at 10:39 , Eliot Lear wrote:
>>
>> > sshv2 could certainly be added to the list, but it doesn't provide
>> > sufficiently
>> > rigorous syntax for transactions.  it's like doing mail through telnet,
>> > and then invoking sendmail.
>>
>> It is already *implemented* and operators are experimenting with
>> *deploying*
>> XML/SSHv2+glue.  In my mind, having folks actually looking into deploying
>> something makes that approach very seriously interesting.
>>
>> And the transaction support is handled using XML in the current stuff,
>> or so I'm being told.
>>
>> Ran
>> rja@extremenetworks.com

Regards,
/david t. perkins


--
to unsubscribe send a message to xmlconf-request@ops.ietf.org with
the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body.
archive: <http://ops.ietf.org/lists/xmlconf/>