RE: CDNP naming

["Phil Rzewski" <philr@inktomi.com>]

That certainly gets us half the way there, in my mind: It takes the 
immediate emphasis off the term "CDN". For the purposes of the BOF, that's 
good by me.

On a going-forward basis, I'd like to be a pest and say that I'm still not 
100% comfortable with the name... but perhaps no name exists that everyone 
could like. In a separate e-mail, Eric Dean made a nice statement about why 
Content Peering isn't a great term:

"I do believe that Content Peering somewhat implies an exchange of content. 
That may be one particular mode of an interconnect; however, there are also 
other potential modes whereby references to content (URL) along with 
certain characteristics about the content (Headers) are exchanged."

As I read it, an ideal term would make room for exchange of both content 
itself, as well as meta-data. Therefore, my response would be to go with 
"Content Layer Internetworking", as it turns "Content" into an adjective 
rather than a noun. Furthermore, by not naming any one specific thing being 
internetworked (distribution, delivery, accounting) it makes room under the 
umbrella for all these and more.

But if Content Distribution Internetworking becomes the name, I just wanna 
state for the record that I'll throw water on anyone that ever tries to 
tell me any certain cross-network content-layer data exchange is "out of 
scope" for the working group unless it somehow applies to distribution. :)

--
Phil


At 10:26 AM 12/1/00 -0500, Mark Day wrote:
>I fear I may have provided bad guidance to Phil on this issue. I noticed
>just now that the agenda for our BOF has the name Content Distribution
>Internetworking already.  I had provided that as a possible alternative, and
>either the ADs or the secretariat must have chosen it in preference to our
>previous name.
>
>Since that name seems workable and accurate, I would suggest that we go with
>it rather than debating further.  And it can be part of the group lore as to
>why "Content Distribution Internetworking" has the acronym "cdnp".
>
>--Mark
>
>Mark Stuart Day
>Senior Scientist
>Cisco Systems
>+1 (781) 663-8310
>markday@cisco.com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-cdn@ops.ietf.org [mailto:owner-cdn@ops.ietf.org]On Behalf Of
> > Fred Douglis
> > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 10:10 AM
> > To: Phil Rzewski
> > Cc: cdn@ops.ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: CDNP naming
> >
> >
> > Phil,
> >
> > I agree by and large with your summary.  And at one point, you suggested
> > "content internetworking" as an alternative.  In fact, I'm not
> > sure if that was
> > mentioned previously, but in one of the strawman calls, we had the same
> > discussion and I threw out "Content Distribution
> > Internetworking", intended as
> > tongue-in-cheek, but it seemed like people picked up on it.  While in the
> > drafts, it didn't end up taking hold, I'd already mentioned it to
> > the person
> > in charge of AT&T's CDN (from the business perspective) and I've
> > heard him
> > using that term in place of "peering" since then.
> >
> > I believe that one of the major stumbling blocks to the term
> > "peering" is the
> > relationship with settlements, and the question of whether it is
> > bilateral.
> > The CDNP BOF clearly covers cases where traditional "peering"
> > doesn't apply,
> > so I hope when it's chartered as a working group, the name better
> > reflects the
> > spectrum of possibilities.
> >
> > Fred
> >
> >

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