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Re: draft-takacs-ccamp-rsvp-te-eth-oam-ext-00.txt




On Dec 4, 2007, at 2:26 PM, Loa Andersson wrote:

Tom,

Thomas Nadeau wrote:


   After reading this draft, I have some questions/comments.

   1) Overall, I am concerned that the definition of a new TLV and
these procedures represent
       what amounts to a laying violation

did mean to say layering violation ???

	Yep. Typing too fast! *)

	--Tom



/Loa

and ask that the ADs take a
look at this
       approach closely. This is similar to the now-rejected approach
that was proposed
in the l2vpn WG about munging CFM + PWs. To my reading, this is
essentially
the same thing. If you want to run CFM, run it natively over the
ethernet interfaces and
have no regard for the underlying topology (GMPLS, PWs, etc...)
otherwise you
will be creating a mess for implementations and interoperability.

2) The introductory sections in this draft give a lot of discussion
about fast fault detection. I
       am puzzled by this given that GMPLS networks tend to run over
quickly self-healing
       optical infrastructures. Is it therefore truly necessary to
motivate this work by
       requiring fast CFMs?

   3) This document does not cover E-LMI. Why not?

For the purposes of this document, we only discuss Ethernet OAM
          [IEEE-CFM] aspects that are relevant for the connectivity
monitoring
          of bidirectional point-to-point PBB-TE connections.

4) Is this the right place to define this document or should this be
done in GELS?

   5)   In section 2 you make the following statement:

       2.  GMPLS RSVP-TE Extensions

          To simplify the configuration of connectivity monitoring,
when an
          Ethernet LSP is signalled the associated MEPs should be
automatically
established. Further more, GMPLS signalling should be able to
         enable/disable connectivity monitoring of a particular
Ethernet LSP.


       To my point in #1 above, you should use the native CFM
functionality over the ethernet interface and signal
       those capabilities to the bridges at both ends using the IEEE
CFM signaling procedures (when and if they
are created). If you want to test the underlying GMPLS LSP(s),
then you should use some
       other mechanism defined for that layer such as the work stated
in draft-ali-ccamp-gmpls-LSP-ping-traceroute-00.txt




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Loa Andersson

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