RE: IEEE 802.1 WG liaison letter to the IETF

["Nurit Sprecher" <nurit.sprecher@SeabridgeNetworks.com>]

IMO, it is the same.

The 802.1ad defines that "A conformant S-VLAN component may implement
any of the options specified for a VLAN-aware bridge component (5.4.1),
and may
a) allow translation of VIDs through support of a VID Translation Table
(6.7) on each Port.". 


-----Original Message-----
From: Loa Andersson [mailto:loa@pi.se] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 19:19
To: Nurit Sprecher
Cc: Don Fedyk; Lucy Yong; Adrian Farrel; ccamp@ops.ietf.org;
gels@rtg.ietf.org
Subject: Re: IEEE 802.1 WG liaison letter to the IETF

All,

I've been looking at this sentence in the liaison:

Translation of 802.1Q S-VLAN tags (with 12 bit VIDs) is supported at
S-tagged service interfaces, as an option, by the IEEE Std 802.1ad
Provider Bridging amendment to IEEE Std 802.1Q.

Could someone explain if there is a difference between a "S-tagged
service interface" and a "S-tagged interface"?

/Loa

Nurit Sprecher wrote:
> Hi Don,
> I did not say the that liaison says that the IET should focus on the 
> 12 bit label encoding technique. I said that the IEEE confirmed that 
> the 12-bit S-VID translation is a standard behavior.
> The IETF got a decision not to define the data plane but to get a 
> confirmation from the IEEE for the standard behavior. This was 
> achieved regarding the 12-bit label encoding technique and we can go 
> on with the work already initiated on this.
> Regards,
> Nurit.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Fedyk [mailto:dwfedyk@nortel.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 18:14
> To: Nurit Sprecher; Lucy Yong; Adrian Farrel; ccamp@ops.ietf.org; 
> gels@rtg.ietf.org
> Subject: RE: IEEE 802.1 WG liaison letter to the IETF
> 
> Nurit
> 
> Please do not try to interpret the liaison. The Liaison says nothing 
> about
> 
> "The IETF should now focus on the 12 bit label encoding technique".
> 
> It actually states:
> 
> "The protocol entities that make use of a given Ethertype are 
> characterized not just by the format of packets 'on the wire' and 
> rules for their interchange, but also by their defined interfaces to 
> adjacent entities in the interface stack and the MAC relay entity as 
> well as by their local management interface interactions"
> 
> In other words just looking like an Ethernet packet with a 12 bit VID 
> (or not) on the wire is not the only criterion. The behavior an impact

> on the Ethernet switch needs to be taken into account. In other words 
> all schemes including your 12 bit VID still need to be discussed to 
> the impact on the interfaces as relays on Ethernet hardware.
> 
> Regards,
> Don
>  
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org
>> This liaison was imitated by the IEEE intentionally to address the 
>> same question that  we wanted to ask the IEEE.
>> The liaison clearly states that (currently) the only standard 
>> behavior
> 
>> is the 12-bit VID translation, and the IETF should now focus on the 
>> 12-bit label encoding technique for GELS.
>> Regards,
>> Nurit.
>>
> <SNIP>
> 
> 
> 
> 


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