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RE: Future of the GELS mailing list



I too would be leery to shut down the list until CCAMP agreed to take on
the work as a charter item. I support the initiative but at the right
time. 

We have agreed we don't define the IEEE data planes in the IETF.  But we
will need a venue to discuss the profile of the data plane(s).  A
separate list may be useful.     

Don   

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org 
> [mailto:owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org] On Behalf Of 
> Dimitri.Papadimitriou@alcatel.be
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:17 AM
> To: Adrian Farrel
> Cc: ccamp@ops.ietf.org; gels@rtg.ietf.org; 
> owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org; dpapadimitriou@psg.com
> Subject: Re: Future of the GELS mailing list
> 
> i can have different interpretations on why people are asking 
> to shutdown the GELS list (so let's try one that goes beyond 
> mailing list duplication which is oversimplistic)
> 
> shutting down the list means that -de facto- agreement that 
> this effort is committed and to be chartered as a control 
> plane only work item @CCAMP with data plane "solutions" 
> sitting outside IETF scope
> 
> is my interpretation correct ?
> 
> if yes - GELS mailing can be shut down -
> 
> if not - it means we don't have agreement to continue this 
> work either within GELS, CCAMP or whatsover
> 
> let's have the real discussion.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Monique Morrow <mmorrow@cisco.com>
> Sent by: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org
> 11/07/2006 11:34
>  
>         To:     Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>, 
> <ccamp@ops.ietf.org>
>         cc:     <gels@rtg.ietf.org>
>         Subject:        Re: Future of the GELS mailing list
> 
> 
> Agree with shutting down the GELS list.
> 
> /m
> 
> 
> On 10/7/06 7:35 pm, "Adrian Farrel" <adrian@olddog.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > We reached a sort-of decision in CCAMP today on the future of GELS. 
> > You
> can
> > see this on the chairs slides at
> > 
> http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/06jul/slides/ccamp-15.ppt#286,8,GELS?
> > 
> > One question remains.
> > Should the GELS mailing list continue or should all 
> discussions move 
> > to
> the
> > CCAMP list?
> > 
> > I am personally inclined to think that the separate list is a useful
> venue
> > for discussions that might not be completely dedicated to GMPLS 
> > protocol issues. On the other hand, maybe the WG would like all 
> > discussions in
> the
> > same place.
> > 
> > I would prefer that we stopped copying emails to both lists.
> > 
> > Opinions?
> > Adrian
> > 
> 
> 
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