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RE: Overlay draft and OIF history...



On a personal note, one GOOD reason to use NSAPs is that if you use the Network Entity Title format, for instance, not only you're able to imediateley identify the ethernet MAC address of the Network Element you're trying to reach, you have a much larger Address space than in IP (v4, which is what everyone will have for many years to come), it's intrinsicaly more secure since not every "jack" has an Osi stack implementation to hack your network, and last but not least... it's what ITU recommends (try saying to an operator that your NE ONLY talks IP).
But IP is gaining, and we, vendors using/supporting OSI, are taking notice of that, and are already installing OSI2IP and IP2OSI layers... for the Control Plane flavor of the month...
About the "names" transalation suggestion... my guess is that you got to be joking :-).
Best regards,
 
Jorge Pinto
Siemens IC R&D ON
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org [mailto:owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org]On Behalf Of Greg Bernstein
Sent: Quarta-feira, 4 de Dezembro de 2002 16:10
To: ccamp@ops.ietf.org
Subject: Overlay draft and OIF history...

Hi all, it's great to see a draft and this much support for a UNI model which seems necessary when offering support out to the edge of "connection oriented services". 

 

This is very similar to the original OIF UNI work, until a huge issue arose over supported address types.  The initial thrust was for only IP address types (v4 and v6).  However this didn't fly with a bunch of folks with installed networks using NSAPs.  However it was never really clear, to me, that NSAPs were needed, i.e., the optical control plane was to be IP based and any other "addresses" could be viewed as "names" and translated when and if necessary.  Note that all previous SONET/SDH standards specified OSI stacks on the "in band" data communications channels (if you were wondering how we got into this mess).

 

This is an area that could use a bit of thinking since from the ITU-T perspective other (non IP) address are desirable.  And it would be nice to harmonize the work at the various standards bodies.

 

Greg B.

 

Greg Bernstein, Grotto-Networking