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Re: draft-enns-*.txt


On Sunday, Feb 16, 2003, at 19:30 America/Montreal, Margaret Wasserman wrote:
A number of us have drafted a proposal for an XML-based
configuration protocol that can be found at:

http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-enns-xmlconf-spec-00.txt

Please feel free to comment to the authors or to this
list.
Thanks, very interesting.

I'd like to float a possibly wacky idea among the folks here. Maybe
it would be nice if we could try adopting the "old" IETF model here,
in trying to make headway in the XML-based Configuration arena.

That is, maybe the above draft could be published as an Individual
Submission, either with Informational status or Experimental status.
Ditto for any other specific proposals that anyone else wants to make.

And then various folks could implement and operators could experiment
with this/these proposals. And then AFTER there is more implementation
experience and AFTER there is more operator experience, at that point
MAYBE IETF could actually look into the question of standardising
*something* in this space.

My main concern is that the past threads on this list have largely
reflected design-without-experience or abstract "requirements" that
aren't based on operational experience with any XML-based Configuration
system.

If we're trying to address an operations issue, which I think we are here,
then having operators play with implementations and be able to provide feedback
(before standardising anything) seems like the high probability path to
operations success.

Ran
rja@extremenetworks.com

PS: Presenting any proposals (e.g. this I-D) to operator fora such as
RIPE or NANOG or LISA meetings also seems like a good way to collect
operator feedback. And maybe the prospect of providing feedback on
the front-end of an IETF WG [1] might be more attractive to some
operations folks not currently involved in IETF.

[1] Of course this is just an ad-hoc mailing list, not an IETF WG, for now.



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