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RE: draft-ietf-ops-mib-review-guidelines-01.txt is now available
I would second Bob's opinions on this issue (all those expressed so far
at least :-)).
I make particular objection to Andy's statement that these are
"practical guidelines on how to configure these programs to check a MIB
so it will meet IETF expectations". This is newspeak for "if you don't
buy or otherwise procure these products, you won't get your MIB past the
MIB quacks and/or IESG members". It also implies that the standard is
not sufficiently documented. I don't think IETF should be making such
implications (the latter, if true, needs fixing).
From: email@example.com [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] On Behalf
Of Bob Natale
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 8:54 AM
To: Mibs Mailing List
Subject: RE: draft-ietf-ops-mib-review-guidelines-01.txt is now
At 2/25/2003:11:29 AM, Andy Bierman wrote:
>At 05:12 PM 2/25/2003 +0100, Wijnen, Bert (Bert) wrote:
>>> >3.) The SMICng include file in Appendix C may need to be updated;
>>> >the editor is awaiting further input.
>>> Why do we include any commercial products (as opposed
>>> to none or all)?
>>Valid question. Maybe we should not.
>I think the current text in the draft is fine.
> - It is in the appendix section
> - SMICng and smilint are both excellent tools for checking SMI
> - SMICng and smilint are the most widely used tools for this purpose
> - the draft is providing practical guidelines on how to configure
> these programs to check a MIB so it will meet IETF expectations
> - If some people think an important SMI validation tool has been
> left out, I would rather see it added than the SMICng and smilint
> sections removed
While I have already stated my case (that argues against
Andy's first sentence above), I do agree with the last
bullet in his list.
>Perhaps the draft should make it more clear that SMI conformance is
>dictated by the standards documents, not any particular SMI conformance
That would be a very good idea.