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Re: [idn] Re: FYI: BOF on Internationalized Email Addresses (IEA)
- To: "Mark Crispin" <MRC@CAC.Washington.EDU>
- Subject: Re: [idn] Re: FYI: BOF on Internationalized Email Addresses (IEA)
- From: "Mark Davis" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
- Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:39:32 -0800
- Cc: "Keith Moore" <email@example.com>, <firstname.lastname@example.org>, <email@example.com>, <firstname.lastname@example.org>, <email@example.com>, <firstname.lastname@example.org>, <email@example.com>, <firstname.lastname@example.org>, <email@example.com>, <firstname.lastname@example.org>, "IMAP Extensions WG" <email@example.com>, <firstname.lastname@example.org>, <email@example.com>, <firstname.lastname@example.org>, <email@example.com>
- References: <E1AEH14-000N0E-GD@psg.com> <00fd01c39ce8$b6f19fe0$79d52b09@DAVIS1> <Pine.WNT.4.60.0310271656320.860@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU>
Ok, I understand more about the context.
Based on what I've seen, I think it quite likely that people will want email
addresses in their native script, even if that means that outsiders can't
(easily) use those email address. After all, it is quite easy to have multiple
email addresses. Mr. Tanaka can have one with Latin letters and one with
Japanese (e.g. ããã@ãã.ãããããã.ããã).
We should remember that for a great many people in the world, Latin letters are
quite unnatural; it'd be a bit like if we had to use Greek letters in all email
addresses. And there are many projects underway in less-developed countries to
bring computers to masses of people that will even less familiarity with Latin
â ààààààààààààààààààààà â
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Crispin" <MRC@CAC.Washington.EDU>
To: "Mark Davis" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Cc: "Keith Moore" <email@example.com>; <firstname.lastname@example.org>;
<email@example.com>; <firstname.lastname@example.org>; <email@example.com>; <firstname.lastname@example.org>;
<email@example.com>; <firstname.lastname@example.org>; <email@example.com>;
<firstname.lastname@example.org>; "IMAP Extensions WG" <email@example.com>;
<firstname.lastname@example.org>; <email@example.com>; <firstname.lastname@example.org>;
Sent: Mon, 2003 Oct 27 17:15
Subject: Re: [idn] Re: FYI: BOF on Internationalized Email Addresses (IEA)
> On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, Mark Davis wrote:
> > I'm curious: why do you think that everyone would be satisfied with Latin
> > characters only, and no non-Latin characters?
> I didn't say that. I stated my belief that, for reasons of practicality,
> most individuals in regions which do not use Latin script accept the use
> of Latin script for multinational exchange.
> It does not work well for an individual in Japan with surname Tanaka to
> expect the overwhelming majority of non-Japanese individuals worldwide to
> know his surname is written with the Han characters for "rice paddy" and
> "middle", or what those characters look like, or how to enter those
> characters on the computer.
> It does, however, work for him to expect that the overwhelming majority of
> individuals worldwide to know how to deal with the 6 Latin letters that
> form the romanization "Tanaka".
> Nor is it very likely that this situation will change in the future. I
> doubt that many individuals in the world are literate in all the world's
> active scripts. Literacy in one's native script and basic Latin script is
> something that most computer users possess today.
> For domestic exchange only, that pair of Han characters are probably
> alright. Within Western Europe, it's probably alright to use Latin
> characters with diacriticals.
> Perhaps the main problem that needs to be decided in any IEA effort is if
> it is alright to have email addresses that are only usable in limited
> areas of the world; or if not, how to represent internationalized email
> addresses in a usable fashion when (not if) the email address needs to be
> represented for a person and/or computer is illiterate in that script.
> A likely side issue is whether it is "good enough" to promote Latin
> characters with diacriticals to the same status of "everybody must know
> how to do these" that is required for ASCII.
> -- Mark --
> Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.
> Si vis pacem, para bellum.